Monday, June 04, 2007

is it not obvious

To me, this provides a legal precedent for radical islamic states to demand our (western) governments turn over our citizens to be tried in their courts.

Australia and US courts

Besides being shortsighted and unconstitutional, this new revolution in Intellectual Property rights BS is undermining the sovereignty of free countries all over the world.

TRex

6 comments:

dw said...

Hey Rex lemme take this to OT and then ask you later your view of this in the WOT, this is interesting. Bear with me cuz it's a new thing to think about. Technology (science) and globalization has a way of challenging every concept of human interaction and long held beleifs weather for good or bad. In the medical profession it challenges responsibility, liability and obligation of health care providers. In law enforement it challenges our privacy. Research challenges our morality and value of life. Just a few. In cyber space it challenges the concept of public domain, legal easement, property rights, user intent, receiving stolen goods, hell everything is anew and like 'civil rights' we are heading for unforseen problems of special interest? Profit and intellectual poperty are 'special interest' in cyber space? Just askin?

Cyber space needs to be free of controlls? No man's land? Use at your own risk? I don't want my national soverignty undermined in order to controll cyber space. My government cannot subject me to a foreigh power? Should the server be the law? What when we can all get on line without one. Maybe we simply need the UN to get off it's incompetent ass and set some international standards like maybe the Australian government should punish the boy on our behalf as the precedent set here seems wrong to me. But if he had been a malicious hacker screwing millions of people I'd send him to a gulag in Siberia.

No organized view here or rational oversight, just pondering. Would like to hear other opinions yet this issue is much deeper than mere theft of intellectual property.

I don't readily see your point about Islam but want to hear your view. I put nothing past Muslims nor our 'more compasionate than god himself, but not to conservatives' Federal Government.

TRex said...

dang.
Now I am going to have to work. Your comment is well thought out, and deserves a response. It will take a couple days.

BTW: what do "OT" and "WOT" stand for? (I am drawing a blank right now.)

dw said...

Sorry. WOT - War On Terror and OT - Off Topic.

Looking forward to this one. It may be at the heart of our future freedoms on line.

TRex said...

I don't feel up to discussion of War on Terror right now, maybe next week or so. I can take on some of the smaller items here. As I understand it, you pose the following four points/questions (among others)

1. Technology (science) and globalization has a way of challenging every concept of human interaction and long held beleifs
2. In the medical profession it challenges responsibility, liability and obligation of health care providers.
3. In cyber space it challenges the concept of public domain, legal easement, property rights Profit and intellectual poperty are 'special interest' in cyber space?
4. Like 'civil rights' we are heading for unforseen problems of special interest?

Are these a good starting point?

BTW: I posted a response on CombatEffective to the question of deeper meaning.
http://www.combateffective.us/content/view/1719

dw said...

The four starting points? This is so abstract to me any fixed position of 'start' will work for me as I can't see the head from the tail.

Saw the 'deeper meaning' thanx. That was the kind a thing I could rant a hour about so tried to stay basic. I don't want to be persieved as a moralistic asshole cuz that would make a one humongous hypocryt, yet the general maning of 'hypocryt' is as shallow as the word 'racist'

Sheeze Don, like focus dude! HELP!I CAN'T! IT'S TOO BIG!

TRex said...

I got a start on this, but in a sqeeze for time. Might be wednesday before I get it done.

When I do, I think it will be a separate post.

TRex